tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post113942061175733772..comments2024-03-06T19:21:15.708-05:00Comments on RealChoice: Proving my point for meChristina Duniganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04785550737493692252noreply@blogger.comBlogger79125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-77069105027443939792009-04-10T00:16:00.000-04:002009-04-10T00:16:00.000-04:00Speaking of charitable giving, I read a few years ...Speaking of charitable giving, I read a few years ago that my state, which regularly ranks at or near the bottom of the 50 United States in just about every ranking (including income) is ranked #1 when it comes to charitable giving (either per capita, or as a percentage of income). While Massachusetts, which is a more wealthy state, has the lowest rate of giving. Weird, huh? The richest give the least while the poorest are the most charitable?<BR/><BR/>Also, I know I read a year or two ago that the citizens of the United States gave more (either annually, or to a specific cause, such as to the victims of the tsunami in 2005) than did many entire countries. That's on top of what our government gave, which way outranked any other government.<BR/><BR/>So, I tend to get a bit irritated when people imply that Americans don't do enough or don't give enough. We already do give more than everybody else, and people *still* aren't satisfied! And the people that tend not to be satisfied are also those who won't get off their wallets and give either. Which leads me back to a previous point of hypocrisy.Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118292622669944944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-77336481170675709822009-04-09T22:01:00.000-04:002009-04-09T22:01:00.000-04:00Philosophically, I agree with you that those who a...Philosophically, I agree with you that those who are most blessed should give back the most; but my problem is the attitude of so many people who act like people should not be in control of their own money -- for example, that *you* get to tell *me* how to spend *my* money. Again, I agree with the idea that those who have the most should give the most, but I also don't think it is my place to tell other people what they should or should not do with their money.<BR/><BR/>People are starving and dying from malnutrition not because enough food cannot be produced in the world to feed everyone, but that the food does not make it into their bellies -- as I mentioned it previously, warlords keep food from their starving subjects in order to keep them in subjection or just to kill them. I know this has happened in the past, and assume it is still happening -- the US government actually pays farmers not to grow as much food as they can. The idea behind it is to keep the price of food high enough that the farmers can make a living, because the laws of supply and demand dictate that if they produce too much, it will drive the price too low. We are not maximizing our full potential even now in producing food. I would prefer for our farmers to grow as much food as possible, and then any surplus be bought by the govt and shipped to people that need it -- in a perfect world, that's what would happen; but I know that many people live under governments that would keep back the food anyway, just because they're mean.<BR/><BR/>It is at least partly this reason why I say the problem is not overpopulation -- not only is there ample room for everyone on the planet and then some, but there is enough food for everyone. The problem isn't population, but getting the food to the people. Some areas are over-crowded, and others are over-populated; but again, it is just certain areas that are suffering from malnutrition and starvation -- just like Europe did in the Middle Ages. We might call it "local overpopulation" -- but the world is not overpopulated. Even if it were, killing people is not the way to relieve the problem.<BR/><BR/>I didn't say Hitler was pro-abortion -- I said he killed the weak, which is the same attitude that abortion advocates have. Hitler didn't need abortion, because he killed adults and children, and performed cruel experiments on pregnant women and babies. Certainly he wouldn't want "the master race" to use abortion -- only the "inferior" races were to be eliminated. He had no need for abortion, if it was legal to kill anyone he wanted. Still, I would be a bit surprised if he did not push abortion on the non-Aryans before he started gassing them.<BR/><BR/>One of my huge problems with a lot of people is hypocrisy -- people like Al Gore going around screaming about global warming, yet his house is huge and uses more electricity in a month than most people use in half a year; not to mention all the fossil fuel he burns up in driving and flying everywhere spreading his "gospel" of fear. And the people who claim the world has too many people, but they don't sterilize themselves, and instead give birth. I have much more respect for the people who live in accordance with their words -- even if I disagree with their words.Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118292622669944944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-36686977179488175812009-04-08T16:51:00.000-04:002009-04-08T16:51:00.000-04:00The US is one of the richest countries in the worl...The US is one of the richest countries in the world, thus it should be giving most. :) <BR/><BR/>'Take a lesson from history -- people in the Middle Ages often died of starvation or diseases caused by overcrowding and malnutrition. We now have many, many more people living in the world than lived back then. More efficient use of resources, better farming, etc., has all raised the standard of living along with the number of people. Why can it not happen again?' <BR/>It never happened in the first, place. Sure it did for some of us, but not all. People are still starving and dying of malnutrition. <BR/><BR/>Hitler was against abortion, just so you know. He forced women to have babies, with ss members, in order to breed a 'racially pure' nation. And gave out awards for having 4, 6 or 8 children. I am not denying the fact that he sterelized and gassed people.<BR/>And actually a better example of 'solving overpopulation' would have been china's one child policy, as that was its aim, Hitler's aim was to create what he felt was a superior race. I dont agree with either of these things by the way, its horrible.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03031136799225084509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-27857624190922350642009-04-07T21:03:00.000-04:002009-04-07T21:03:00.000-04:00Don't worry -- I'm not going to jump down your thr...Don't worry -- I'm not going to jump down your throat about spelling or anything. :-)<BR/><BR/>The world is not now overpopulated, nor will it be for many billions of people more -- perhaps trillions. <BR/><BR/>Take a lesson from history -- people in the Middle Ages often died of starvation or diseases caused by overcrowding and malnutrition. We now have many, many more people living in the world than lived back then. More efficient use of resources, better farming, etc., has all raised the standard of living along with the number of people. Why can it not happen again?<BR/><BR/>You said that the world is currently overpopulated in your previous comment, and that it is being abused. I disagree with that philosophy and the conclusions of it, but I'm not going to get into it now.<BR/><BR/>I see no difference between the murder of unborn babies and the murder of born people. Perhaps I was a little harsh, but some days I just don't like to beat around the bush. You think it should be legal to murder fetuses; I do not.<BR/><BR/>Yes, a life that cannot keep itself alive, is still a life, by simple definition. You could not keep yourself alive if six strong people held you underwater -- does that fact mean you are not really alive? You are not self-sufficient, I daresay; and even if you do grow all your own food and make all your own clothes and build your own shelter, etc., it could all be taken away from you by people who are bigger, stronger, better armed, etc. There is no difference between you and a fetus in that -- the human genetic code, from the moment of fertilization, operates independently of the mother. All she adds is nutrition and oxygen -- if you were deprived of either of these things, you would also soon die.<BR/><BR/>The problem I have the "overpopulation" crowd is that their solution is at first to kill the most helpless members of our species -- the unborn. Eugenicists of the past (including Hitler and Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, which she founded to reduce the number of births to the minority races, which she thought were inferior to whites) did not stop with the unborn, but advocated forced sterilization of the people they considered to be unfit to reproduce. Hitler, of course, went even further, to gassing not just Jews, but anyone he thought inferior -- babies born with mental or physical disabilities, blacks, dwarves, etc. Forgive me for lumping you in with other people who are more vocal about where their philosophy of death takes them.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and the United States is pretty freakin' generous! We do a lot more than most countries, and I daresay, we do more than every other country, when it comes to charitable giving abroad.<BR/><BR/>And when Bush did try to go and relieve people outside of our borders, all he got was a load of crap from liberals around the world accusing him of war-mongering, colonialism, interfering with other countries' matters, etc.Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118292622669944944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-19872966956492375702009-04-07T17:59:00.000-04:002009-04-07T17:59:00.000-04:00I am fully aware of the fact that resources arent ...I am fully aware of the fact that resources arent being distributed evenly, but if there WERE less people there would still be more to go around, although the american government still wouldnt bother trying to do anything, despite it being the most powerful, instead people are too busy worring about the feotuses (i know i cant spell, so dont have a go at me about that).<BR/>Its also about what WE in the richer countries choose to make the resources, for example there is the choice of feeding grains to humans or other animals who are then slaughtered in order to feed humans. The amount of grain used in order to produce other food is ridiculous. <BR/><BR/>The people claiming over population arent saying that everyone on the planet is a burden (or at least im not, as the planet isnt yet OVER populated, its like on a bus in rush hour when you could cram a few more people on, but everyone on the bus is praying that the driver wont open the doors) Anyway back to the 'burden' if all the people trying to make a positive difference to sustaining the planet (i.e the ones who would consider themselves a burden) killed themselves how will this planet survive? It wont, thus everyone, including embryos, would die anyway. <BR/><BR/> 'they just don't mind killing others or letting them be killed' - this is pure ignorant vile & i cannot believe that you can make such (wrong) accusations based on one aspect of a persons belief. If this is in referance to alowing women to have control over their own lives, a right many women have fought and died for throughout history, consider this; if a life cannot keep itself alive is it really alive?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03031136799225084509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-11031207803110731612009-04-07T08:59:00.000-04:002009-04-07T08:59:00.000-04:00Quite frankly, you're wrong about overpopulation. ...Quite frankly, you're wrong about overpopulation. The problem isn't population, but how resources are being used. Many people in third-world countries are starving and dying not because there isn't enough food in the world, but because they do not have access to it. Many times it is because of harsh governments and dictators that are starving people into submission. Killing fetuses in America will not feed one more person in Darfur.<BR/><BR/>One thing that always gets me about people who claim the world is overpopulated, is that they never seem to take the conscientious step to reduce their own personal "burden" on the planet (which I don't think is truly a burden, but you do and they do, so we'll pretend you're right), and remove themselves from the planet. I wonder what would happen if all the world's people who scream about overpopulation were to take all their money over to impoverished areas and give it all away and then put a bullet in their brains. Now *that* would be truly acting on your beliefs!<BR/><BR/>I rather suspect that the overpopulation crowd don't do this because they like life as much as the next person, and they don't want to have their own life snuffed out... they just don't mind killing others or letting them be killed.Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118292622669944944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-51944288017458240392009-04-07T08:06:00.000-04:002009-04-07T08:06:00.000-04:00Considering I attend a christian high school I am ...Considering I attend a christian high school I am in constant contact with people who argue pro-life. Although being in the UK there are less extreme views.<BR/><BR/>It's great what you are doing to help people. But forcing women or girls who are mentally or physically unable to deal with pregnancy or birth is not helping them.<BR/><BR/>I noticed in one of your responses that you argued how the cells aborted could have been the next world leader, or someone who cures major diseases, but they could have been a mass murderer, there are two sides to every argument. <BR/><BR/>'You can't judge a person from a single blog entry' is this not what you are doing? Assuming that i don't respect unborn babies. In fact i do, i used to be against abortion too. But i have gained insight and perspective, for example the world IS overpopulated, if all the babies that were concieved were born this would get much worse. The world cant sustain this many people, especially when it is being abused. <BR/><BR/>I think this is something that will go on, so i think it would be easiest to agree to disagree. Things to do and all that. But it's been interesting seeing someone else's point of view. Perhaps you could try that sometime?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03031136799225084509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-70088090891566326702009-04-06T17:03:00.000-04:002009-04-06T17:03:00.000-04:00loz, first of all, we're not talking about "bundle...loz, first of all, we're not talking about "bundles of cells". In cases of hydatidiform mole or blighted ovum, nobody objects to removing the bundles of cells from the uterus. They're not little people; they're just cells.<BR/><BR/>As for "living people" -- by which I presume you mean "born people", you don't see me arguing about their basic human rights because you don't know me. You only come in on one particular blog post. I'm often on my soapbox about getting potable water, basic sanitation, and malaria control to people in developing countries. I'm very active with KIVA, that does microfinance for people in developing countries. I spearheaded fundraising to provide a well for a village in Sierra Leone. I support mission work to provide medical centers for people in poor areas. And I spent many years as a volunteer EMT, getting up in the middle of the night to go take care of sick people and accident victims. I intervened during a mugging to chase off the attacker who was assaulting an elderly woman. I stop and direct traffic around accident sites until the first responders appear. I do plenty for born people. It just doesn't sow on an abortion blog.<BR/><BR/>You can't judge a person from a single blog entry. I'd advise you to get to know a few people who share my respect for the smallest and weakest members of the human family, instead of getting what you know about us from others who think that being small and young and weak makes you disposable.Christina Duniganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04785550737493692252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-66411937461685161942009-04-06T08:15:00.000-04:002009-04-06T08:15:00.000-04:00I realise that this is a long time after the origi...I realise that this is a long time after the original post. But do you not think that there are more important things than saving a bundle of cells? <BR/>Think about all the people in the world living in poverty, do you not think we should help them before spending hours arguing about something which isnt able to exist outside of its mothers womb?<BR/>People are dying everyday, when they dont need to just because the wealthy keep all the wealth, LIVING PEOPLE who are actually alive are suffering (we know they are suffering, it is clear to see, not a guess that 'oh dear you might hurt the unborn cells'). And yet i dont see you arguing about their basic human rights.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03031136799225084509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-74334401531391137682009-04-01T09:49:00.000-04:002009-04-01T09:49:00.000-04:00Ashwerk,If abortion reduces child abuse, why do we...Ashwerk,<BR/><BR/>If abortion reduces child abuse, why do we still have child abuse, and not only is it still in existence, but is much more prevalent and prominent than it was before abortion was legal in the United States?Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118292622669944944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-70266969098770972432009-03-31T16:56:00.000-04:002009-03-31T16:56:00.000-04:00Ashwerk, if we need to "cull the herd", wouldn't i...Ashwerk, if we need to "cull the herd", wouldn't it make sense to kill, say, career criminals? Think of what a blessing it would be to the rest of society to get rid of those who make our lives miserable by stealing from us, breaking into our houses, setting fire to our buildings, assaulting us, and murdering our loved ones?<BR/><BR/>With a fetus, you simply don't know the quality of the person you're killing. You could be killing the next great physician, the next great artist, the next great leader. They're not all "rejects".<BR/><BR/>It makes much more sense, if we're going to improve our lot by killing people, to kill people known to be destroying the quality of life for everybody else.Christina Duniganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04785550737493692252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-71268425489743755472009-03-31T07:33:00.000-04:002009-03-31T07:33:00.000-04:00I see here that many pro-lifers use the argument t...I see here that many pro-lifers use the argument that the fetus/embryo is in fact alive, a human being, so it should not be killed. I honestly believe that the aborting of fetuses is actually the most humane way of "culling the herd" of the human race, such as we do to control populations of many other species of animal. Abortion is something that people should be thankful for, because we have the ability to control the human population, and decrease the number of unwanted/abused children through means that takes the life of a being that cannot have emotions or coherent though. As much as it is a life in the making, I believe it is important to focus on the well being of lives already here; the ones learning, working and contributing to society, including the pregnant woman, her family, and the father. I believe it is illogical to turn away from these important people, who may have financial problems, (as well as others) and simply cannot live their own happy lives with a child, which in turn may traumatize a child itself if it is to grow up in poverty or domestic violence, among other things. Abortion is for those who do not want a child, and for those who cannot see a place fit for a child at that moment in their lives. Statistically, it would be very... troubling if those 200,000 say abortions never happened, and every one of those children were put up for adoption, from all walks of life. I personally wouldn't want to force anyone, especially a child, through that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-60020777021173488112009-03-12T13:06:00.000-04:002009-03-12T13:06:00.000-04:00Granny ..I just wanted to say thank you. You have ...Granny ..<BR/><BR/>I just wanted to say thank you. You have posted something that you believe in and you're tolerating all the attacks from all the idiots. I skipped two periods in a row a few months back, and my mom brought up the issue of abortion. I'm ashamed to admit that I did consider it for a while, but I came to my senses within a week. <BR/><BR/>I'm only 19 so it's understandable why I would be so afraid. I found out that I'm indeed not pregnant.. but I am proud to say that I would not have been able to bring myself to have an abortion anyways.<BR/><BR/>As harsh as this sounds, this is my viewpoint on abortion: IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SEX, BE READY FOR THE CONSEQUENCES. IF YOU CANT HANDLE HAVING A CHILD, KEEP YOUR LEGS CLOSED.<BR/><BR/>It's not an issue of money, competency, or even mental stability ... but of responsibility. If one knows they cannot handle a child, they need to just obstain from engaging in activities that can put them at risk. <BR/><BR/>Simple as that! Once again, thank you granny. The world needs some more people with educated minds .. and common sense. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-49250006717574958362009-02-28T11:51:00.000-05:002009-02-28T11:51:00.000-05:00Just a comment on the idea that everyone always wa...Just a comment on the idea that everyone always wants babies... My husband and I have adopted six children. When the kids came to us, they were ages 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9. I also have one biological son who is 17. When I got pregnant with him, I was in college--the first person in my family to go to college--and was terrified. I was married, but my husband was abusive (not my current husband). When my son was two, I found out I was pregnant again, but that baby was ectopic, so I lost it after carrying it for 12 weeks. I nearly died when my fallopian tube ruptured. Thank you for your attempts to educate people on the medical dangers that are possible when they try these home "remedies."Momof7https://www.blogger.com/profile/14868349325860235302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-84244385059550126582009-02-17T17:02:00.000-05:002009-02-17T17:02:00.000-05:00Well, congratulations on getting married, first of...Well, congratulations on getting married, first of all. And I will indeed pray for you. And I know what it's like for the pregnancy to seem like a total disaster. I thought I might as well crawl in a hole and die. But my son turned out to be a blessing for the entire family. And I wouldn't have been nearly as stressed out if I hadn't been taught that an unplanned pregnancy is that horrible. If somebody had been encouraging me all along that I'd freak out but adapt and even thrive, I'd have not had so much anguish -- needless anguish.<BR/><BR/>I'd ask other single women reading this to reflect on whether or not the stress of sex in untenable situations -- the wrangling with birth control, the risk/reality of STDs, the pregnancy scares, the pregnancy panic -- is the sex worth it? And is the guy paying the same price you're paying?<BR/><BR/>I know of a lot of women who have finally said, "If he doesn't love and respect me enough to only have sex with me in a secure situation, he's not getting any of me." We agree that there are times when it's hard -- but also that it is so liberating. <BR/><BR/>When I went to Korea to live for several years and didn't have a car -- only then did I really see how much of my time and energy and money a car had been sucking up. And it's the same for sex. Once you say, "No more without a ring, buddy!" you find that you have so much more time and emotional strength to invest in other things. I haven't had a pregnancy scare for over ten years. It's GREAT! I have ZERO worries about STDs. And when I see women with troublesome men, I can reflect that I've weeded out the worst of the losers in weeding out those who don't respect my sexuality as much as I do.<BR/><BR/>Just food for thought.Christina Duniganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04785550737493692252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-54105591903788694072009-02-17T16:35:00.000-05:002009-02-17T16:35:00.000-05:00I am 22 with a 7 month old daughter and just found...I am 22 with a 7 month old daughter and just found out im pregnant again..I am so disappointed.I know someone will say well stay off your back or take responsibility..If your not in my shoes or been in my shoes dont speak on the subject please.I had an iud after my baby Jadyn but had problems with side effects and pain.a month later I had it taken out.The iud caused me alot of problems.I ended up in the er with PID.afer I took all my antibiotics and was back to myself I made an app.to try another birth control(only 3 wks later)but 2 days before my app i got 3 positive pregnancy results.Im so stressed out and dnt know what to do.I already have my wedding dress and was plannin a wedding.I am also in 2 more wedding within the next few weeks.i could never have an abortion.knowing how much my daughter means to me changes alot.My real problem is I find myself hoping for a chemical pregnancy or a miscarriage.(not a self miscarriage but natural)please pray for me and give some advice.I dont like thinking this way!!thanksjadynsmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02478194930829134773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-91000487150553169112008-12-26T02:17:00.000-05:002008-12-26T02:17:00.000-05:00GrannyGrump, I love youGrannyGrump, I love youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-61103739625032263182008-12-11T10:20:00.000-05:002008-12-11T10:20:00.000-05:00How many dead baby's does it take to paint a room?...How many dead baby's does it take to paint a room?<BR/><BR/>Depends on how hard ya throw um ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-81959645859243027282008-12-08T20:47:00.000-05:002008-12-08T20:47:00.000-05:00Mae,The maternal mortality rate in the United Stat...Mae,<BR/><BR/>The maternal mortality rate in the United States is (most recent figures) about 15/100,000 (lower in most other Western nations). There are approximately 4 million babies born every year, with between 1-1.5 million abortions. Assuming all maternal deaths are "dying in childbirth" (which is not the case), about 600 women will die as a result of pregnancy. Assuming no maternal deaths from abortions, 6,667 babies would have to die by abortion to "save" the life of one woman from "dying in childbirth." Is that a reasonable trade-off to you? It is to some people, because they don't consider the life of the fetus to be worth anything.<BR/><BR/>But it is more complicated than that, although I will not go into more details unless you wish it. <BR/><BR/>However, there is a very small risk, and it is many times identifiable and with good care should be able to be avoided, with proper care. Still, abortion is almost always allowable for "the life of the mother," which abortions are extremely rare. These may include ectopic pregnancies, and in very few cases certain health problems that threaten the mother's life before the baby is viable. After viability, the baby can be born alive and kept alive, with a very good chance of survival. At 24 weeks, survival is high; by 30 weeks, it's something like 90% and with few if any long-lasting effects from prematurity.<BR/><BR/>So your argument about "mothers who will die during labor for a slim chance of survival for the baby" is extremely rare, especially for women who are not high-risk, especially since most babies will have a high survival rate.<BR/><BR/>The problem with this argument is that it is used to justify the 20% termination rate in the United States, although probably fewer than 1%, maybe fewer than even 1/10% of abortions are done to save the life of the mother, or to preserve her from very serious potential health consequences. Yet millions of babies have been killed for no greater reason than that they were not wanted.<BR/><BR/>As far as the argument that "they WILL find a way" -- what else will we use this argument for to keep or make legal? Driving under the influence of alcohol? Drug use? Stealing? Prostitution? Bribery?<BR/><BR/>Two wrongs don't make a right.Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118292622669944944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-75737755186363783332008-12-08T20:04:00.000-05:002008-12-08T20:04:00.000-05:00Mae, Angry Clown and her ilk aren't doing herbal h...Mae, Angry Clown and her ilk aren't doing herbal home abortions because they can't get a legal scrape or pill at the doctor's. They're doing it for the same reason people rub aloe on burns, or gargle with salt water instead of reaching for the Cepacol -- because they consider it more natural. There's an entire subculture of women who flat out hate the idea of involving doctors in abortion because they consider it a "Wise Woman" thing, and they think it's demeaning to their bodies to medicalize it.<BR/><BR/>We can discuss the other aspects of your post if you like, but you need to grasp that first of all.Christina Duniganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04785550737493692252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-79488333566739244502008-12-08T17:35:00.000-05:002008-12-08T17:35:00.000-05:00has anyone... ever... like, thought... abortion us...has anyone... ever... like, thought... abortion usually tends to be a hostile subject, for both pro life and pro choice. I understand that grannygrump wants to put information out there so people can make an informed choice, which is good, but there's a point where you go from a calm debate, to a ridiculous argument.<BR/><BR/>I have been at both ends of the spectrum. 4 years ago when i was ridiculously in love and would do anything for a child, but kept miscarrying, i was the most ADAMANT pro-lifer anywhere. Then i actually carried through on a pregnancy.<BR/><BR/>Motherhood is the most terrific experience ever, but, financially, it is very stressful. Especially as a single mother. 2 months after i left my husband, i found out i was pregnant again, and i could NOT bring a child into the financial bind me and my daughter were in.<BR/><BR/>I started seriously considering abortion, and felt like a hypocrite the whole time. I never aborted the baby, i ended up miscarrying again due to stress, and i was heartbroken.<BR/><BR/>However, it did not take those few weeks from my memory, when i was so upset about what to do. I understand adoption is an option, but... what about the mothers who will die during labor for a slim chance of survival for the baby?<BR/>or even the teens who werent smart enough to protect themselves? they WILL find a way. through either legal methods, herbal alternatives, or going to the "midwife" down the way who has a coathanger made just for them.<BR/><BR/>No, abortion is not a choice i would make, but i do think it should be legal for the simple fact that people will find less healthy alternatives, such as the one angry clown posted that started this whole thing.<BR/><BR/>-MaeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-17592241710688131722008-12-05T07:34:00.000-05:002008-12-05T07:34:00.000-05:00Anna,Care to give the book, chapter and verse that...Anna,<BR/><BR/>Care to give the book, chapter and verse that says that Christians have to respect a person's decision to kill an unborn baby?<BR/><BR/>And, you're one to talk about "idiots" "posting on other people's informative sites just because their opinion differs from yours" -- isn't that what you've just now done?Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118292622669944944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-37939875442287586412008-12-04T23:01:00.000-05:002008-12-04T23:01:00.000-05:00You need to respect your neighbors by respecting t...<I>You need to respect your neighbors by respecting their individual rights. </I><BR/><BR/>You, who come here and announce your plans to have your own child put to death, have a lot of nerve lecturing somebody else on respecting people's rights. Where is YOUR respect for other people's rights, when you impose YOUR opinions even to the point of death?Christina Duniganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04785550737493692252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-9648476538275773422008-12-04T19:32:00.000-05:002008-12-04T19:32:00.000-05:00Oh, by the way, I'm having an abortion next week.Oh, by the way, I'm having an abortion next week.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-42103521133103614542008-12-04T19:26:00.000-05:002008-12-04T19:26:00.000-05:00I wish idiots like you would stop posting on other...I wish idiots like you would stop posting on other people's informative sites just because their opinion differs from yours. Your type makes me sick with your years of brainwashing by corrupt uber-christians and right wing good 'ol boys. You need to respect your neighbors by respecting their individual rights. It says so in the bible you so proudly thump and beat over the heads of women, who for their own reasons, feel that their only option is to abort. Have you seen the economy? $300 abortions are much more affordale. And don't even start with your adoption rhetoric. Who wants 9 months of misery and expense, not to mention a lifetime of sagging breasts and stretch marks or skin that won't shrink back to last year's figure, and constantly wondering if the child that you had to give up because you couldn't afford it is being raped or sodomized or neglected by its adopted parents and all the birthdays you miss- it isn't yours or anyone else's business what other people do with their bodies. What's next...no tattoos or hair dye? What, did you go to Bob Jones University or are you just into the cult of mid-western good 'ol Joe the Plumber heartland christianity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com