tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post8862940085114694615..comments2024-03-06T19:21:15.708-05:00Comments on RealChoice: Hydatidiform moleChristina Duniganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04785550737493692252noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-15527122952964384422011-11-25T02:33:09.818-05:002011-11-25T02:33:09.818-05:00The link http://realchoice.blogspot.com/library/we...The link http://realchoice.blogspot.com/library/weekly/aa030606a.htm in the article is dead; the page is not found. I want to see the page. :(<br /><br />To other comments: I let God worry about souls. Someone who can raw-code human DNA is way smarter than I am; He can handle it. He could easily put a new soul into the second twin as it splits off. Jesus told the religious leaders that they erred because they didn't understand 1.) the Scriptures and 2.) the power of God. Gods powerful enough that managing souls isn't a problem for Him, and the Scriptures show that He's all-knowing and seems to exist outside of time-space- hence His knowledge of the future. <br /><br />We can care about the children's lives; He can manage their souls. However, twins do have separate souls before birth- the story of Jacob and Esau wrestling in the womb before birth and God's words on the matter prove that- as do John the Baptist's perceptions and infilling of the Holy Spirit as an embryo or fetus in the early chapters of Luke. From a Christian theological standpoint, the unborn do absolutely have souls. <br /><br />Do I understand exactly how it works? Not completely- but, I can watch the sunrise and observe that the light appears at a certain time without understanding the exact mathematics of the earth's orbit. You don't have to have perfect knowledge of EVERYTHING to at least get the basic idea (thank God, because otherwise we'd ALL be in trouble!)kittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00496711950808524349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-75514635334419748402009-06-23T11:49:38.910-04:002009-06-23T11:49:38.910-04:00SegaMon
“Chad, I find what you are saying to be q...SegaMon<br /><br />“Chad, I find what you are saying to be quite hilarious.”<br /><br />Actually it’s not me that you are laughing at, it’s logic. Which your grasp of, from your comment below, seems questionable:<br /><br />“If you want to contend that ensoulment happens at conception (which it certainly could) then an embryo that splits into two would already have two souls prior to the split.”<br /><br />First, I never claimed that ensoulment happens at conception. I’m not sure when it happens. Second, your assertion does not make any sense. Either an embryo has a soul, or it has more than one soul. It does not make sense to say that an embryo that has twinned had one soul at a previous time, then somehow gained another soul to make the twin. Otherwise you believe that all embryos possess multiple souls, and may or may not twin.<br /><br />chadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-80710619488966948032009-06-20T23:55:42.871-04:002009-06-20T23:55:42.871-04:00Chad, I find what you are saying to be quite hilar...Chad, I find what you are saying to be quite hilarious.<br /><br />I believe that God has many things about Him that we will never, ever understand. I don't see how saying "God decides" could ever undermine the pro-life belief that life starts at conception.<br /><br />If you want to contend that ensoulment happens at conception (which it certainly could) then an embryo that splits into two would already have two souls prior to the split.<br /><br />The fact that God knows everything and that we, as humans, do not was the only thing that I was trying to illustrate.Tonal Blisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03198001091701514327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-70639442303268183282009-06-16T10:06:48.267-04:002009-06-16T10:06:48.267-04:00"Besides, I do believe that an omnipotent and..."Besides, I do believe that an omnipotent and all-knowing God already knows if two people will result from one."<br /><br />Then you have just undermined any claim to personal identity. I don't think you want to do this. You may want to rethink this assertion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-36919541824344816902009-06-16T10:01:12.796-04:002009-06-16T10:01:12.796-04:00"Ensoulment is a religious issue, not a human..."Ensoulment is a religious issue, not a human rights issue."<br /><br />So religion has no connection to human rights? I don't think that's what you meant to say.<br /><br />I think what you wanted to say was that ensoulment is a theological point.<br /><br />In any case, the distinction you've created only serves to avoid some difficult questions, such as:<br /><br />When does a person join with a body?<br /><br />How many persons can inhabit a body?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-72187131174751537982009-06-15T23:34:58.216-04:002009-06-15T23:34:58.216-04:00"Ensoulment is a religious issue, not a human..."Ensoulment is a religious issue, not a human rights issue."<br /><br />Amen.<br /><br />Besides, I do believe that an omnipotent and all-knowing God already knows if two people will result from one.Tonal Blisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03198001091701514327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-88444822149257762062009-06-15T17:11:01.527-04:002009-06-15T17:11:01.527-04:00Ensoulment is a religious issue, not a human right...Ensoulment is a religious issue, not a human rights issue.Christina Duniganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04785550737493692252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-10903990129021563462009-06-15T12:20:55.585-04:002009-06-15T12:20:55.585-04:00"I see no reason one body can't be two pe..."I see no reason one body can't be two people before birth as well"<br /><br />Well, this will raise some serous problems in terms of ensoulment.<br /><br />ChadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-51528849204630396592009-06-15T00:42:21.009-04:002009-06-15T00:42:21.009-04:00Christina: "...I see no reason one body can&#...Christina: "...I see no reason one body can't be two people before birth as well -- or why we can't recognize twinning as a form of asexual reproduction, ..."<br /><br />I love this fresh way of thinking about identical and conjoined twins. It may be rare but it also is a natural occurring phenomenon to bring two people into the world.Tonal Blisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03198001091701514327noreply@blogger.com