Well dear me, what a twisted little performance! 'Warning' people, fear-mongering, invoking the 'judgment of god' and demonizing clinics and medicos. What do you really think would happen if groups of people started standing outside churches on Sunday mornings, trying to shove leaflets into peoples' hands and pleading with people not to go in? Seriously. The sheer gall of you people!
If what we do is so atrocious, then, why do we have women come back IN TEARS thanking us for inspiring or even directly helping them keep their babies? Our "fear-mongering, demonizing" pro-life church held a baby shower for a young lady who chose life, offered her access to community suppport. There was no fear-mongering involved, Rupert. Can't say it never happens, on EITHER side of the fence - but I personally have met more women who sadly say, "I wish someone would have told me before the abortion...." than those who were genuinely insulted by sidewalk counselors.
What do you really think would happen if groups of people started standing outside churches on Sunday mornings, trying to shove leaflets into peoples' hands and pleading with people not to go in?
@Rupert,
My guess is they would last about 15 minutes and then go home.
Atheism is unnatural for human beings. That's why it's always way out at the end of the bell curve. A really rigorous and thorough-going atheism requires some kind of mania or rage or injury to keep it going. Most people don't have the energy to do that. So the average room temperature posture of the human person is a sort of pagan reverence for the Unknown and the tendency to recognize that there is something spiritual behind the world. You can suppress that by sheer dint of will if you belong to the tiny percentage of people who can sustain raging Evangelical Atheism over a life time. But it will never catch on.
anna - and how many women are there whose lives have been ruined, or may have even committed suicide because they didn't have that abortion that they really thought would have been their least-worst option? And the children who have had disastrous lives because of the circumstances they were born into? Look at the lives of some people who live where abortion is not an option.
John - maybe outside a nice Methodist church, but then they aren't all that committed are they? Many other churches would react in a most fierce manner. Police would be called, threats would be made, angry words spoken. The ire of zealots cannot be underestimated. Try Westboro.
A post by a religious adherent, I'm supposed to take that seriously? What a load of opinionated, self-supporting hooey!
Atheism is not unnatural for humans. Successful civic and cooperative societies existed before religion, where do you think the 'morals' in biblical tests were sources from?
What's unnatural is people believing in fairy tales to fill a hole in their lives, intellect or psyche. Atheism may have a mania or rage but that is because of the sheer stupidity, hypocrisy, patriarchy and woman-controlling ethos of religion.
Because that's what religion is all about - power, control - especially of women, and the perpetration of subjugating the masses. The rest of his little spiel isn't even worth addressing as it's so inane.
Well dear me, what a twisted little performance! 'Warning' people, fear-mongering, invoking the 'judgment of god' and demonizing clinics and medicos.
...and how many women are there whose lives have been ruined, or may have even committed suicide because they didn't have that abortion that they really thought would have been their least-worst option? And the children who have had disastrous lives because of the circumstances they were born into? Look at the lives of some people who live where abortion is not an option.
Clear to provide any proof or evidence to support your claims or are you just going to come here and spout baseless rhetoric?
Well dear me, what a twisted little performance!
ReplyDelete'Warning' people, fear-mongering, invoking the 'judgment of god' and demonizing clinics and medicos.
What do you really think would happen if groups of people started standing outside churches on Sunday mornings, trying to shove leaflets into peoples' hands and pleading with people not to go in? Seriously.
The sheer gall of you people!
If what we do is so atrocious, then, why do we have women come back IN TEARS thanking us for inspiring or even directly helping them keep their babies?
ReplyDeleteOur "fear-mongering, demonizing" pro-life church held a baby shower for a young lady who chose life, offered her access to community suppport. There was no fear-mongering involved, Rupert. Can't say it never happens, on EITHER side of the fence - but I personally have met more women who sadly say, "I wish someone would have told me before the abortion...." than those who were genuinely insulted by sidewalk counselors.
What do you really think would happen if groups of people started standing outside churches on Sunday mornings, trying to shove leaflets into peoples' hands and pleading with people not to go in?
ReplyDelete@Rupert,
My guess is they would last about 15 minutes and then go home.
Incidentally, Mark Shea has a post today titled "Evangelical Atheism Makes You a Paranoid Sucker" that explains why:
Atheism is unnatural for human beings. That's why it's always way out at the end of the bell curve. A really rigorous and thorough-going atheism requires some kind of mania or rage or injury to keep it going. Most people don't have the energy to do that. So the average room temperature posture of the human person is a sort of pagan reverence for the Unknown and the tendency to recognize that there is something spiritual behind the world. You can suppress that by sheer dint of will if you belong to the tiny percentage of people who can sustain raging Evangelical Atheism over a life time. But it will never catch on.
anna - and how many women are there whose lives have been ruined, or may have even committed suicide because they didn't have that abortion that they really thought would have been their least-worst option? And the children who have had disastrous lives because of the circumstances they were born into? Look at the lives of some people who live where abortion is not an option.
ReplyDeleteJohn - maybe outside a nice Methodist church, but then they aren't all that committed are they? Many other churches would react in a most fierce manner. Police would be called, threats would be made, angry words spoken. The ire of zealots cannot be underestimated. Try Westboro.
A post by a religious adherent, I'm supposed to take that seriously? What a load of opinionated, self-supporting hooey!
Atheism is not unnatural for humans. Successful civic and cooperative societies existed before religion, where do you think the 'morals' in biblical tests were sources from?
What's unnatural is people believing in fairy tales to fill a hole in their lives, intellect or psyche. Atheism may have a mania or rage but that is because of the sheer stupidity, hypocrisy, patriarchy and woman-controlling ethos of religion.
Because that's what religion is all about - power, control - especially of women, and the perpetration of subjugating the masses. The rest of his little spiel isn't even worth addressing as it's so inane.
Well dear me, what a twisted little performance!
ReplyDelete'Warning' people, fear-mongering, invoking the 'judgment of god' and demonizing clinics and medicos.
...and how many women are there whose lives have been ruined, or may have even committed suicide because they didn't have that abortion that they really thought would have been their least-worst option? And the children who have had disastrous lives because of the circumstances they were born into? Look at the lives of some people who live where abortion is not an option.
Clear to provide any proof or evidence to support your claims or are you just going to come here and spout baseless rhetoric?