A commenter over at the
After Abortion blog linked to
the responses Planned Parenthood got to an online petition, asking for their support for their crusade against CPCs. The campaign, of course, a
a hoax based on lies and distortions, painting the CPCs as dishonest and milking the taxpayers. (A case of the pot calling the fire black, as far as
Planned Parenthood goes.)
If you look at comments from supporters of PP's petition, if these people ever find out about
the way PP actually operates, there's gonna be such a backlash that there won't be a PP left standing anywhere in America, because angry people are gonna tear them down brick by brick. (Not to mention did these people know that their names and comments would be posted online?) My own comments, when I add them, will be in italics for easy identification:
Sue Vallejo, Texas: "This is clearly a case of " bait & switch" and should be stopped."
Hey Sue -- how about promising "options counseling" then only selling abortion?Erin Bendle: Alaska: "Women deserve truth and respect when making choices about their bodies and health... not deceit."
How about Kris Humphrey, thoroughly prochoice, who was so disgusted with how disrespectfully she was treated at a Planned Parenthood that she attempted her next abortion herself, at home, and ended up dead as a result?Reverend Pennie Mumm, Washington: "I am shocked that my tax dollars are funding disinformation and pressure, and it needs to stop now."
By all means. Go to STOPP and make your voice heard!Merril Locke, North Carolina: "Stop the deception!"
About as apt a thing to say to PP as anybody's ever said.Michael Kane , California: "Do we expect our government to use our tax money to circulate and perpetrate dishonest information? Do we?
Yeah, every time we give tax dollars to PP. Whatever happened to 'truth in advertising laws?"
Carol Kelly, Kansas: "Informed choices are the only way to determine a course of action. Trickery and fakery should not be allowed!"
Diane Kruse, Colorado: "Do not use my tax dollars to provide incomplete health information to women in crisis. Respect their ability as adults to make the best informed decision by providing full information."
Amber Ziembam Pennsylvania: "Stop lying!!!"
If only PP would!DAN & NANCY URICH, Illinois: "STOP THE LIES AND DECEIT."
Laura Sakalas, Ohio: "As a mother to be it deeply offends me that another woman in my position may be misled into thinking they are receiving accurate medical opinions from individuals that may have no medical training. The fact that my tax dollars are paying for it just makes me ill."
Boy, I bet she'd be thrilled to know about the abortion clinics that have been caught having people with no medical training administering the anesthesia -- and that Planned Parenthood has never consider this outrageous enough to start a campaign to stop it.Robert Russell, Massachusetts: "It is just not acceptable for an organization to claim to offer someone support in a crisis, only to use the oppurtunity to impose their views upon them."
Vicki Behrens, Missouri: "Everyone deserves truthful & honest treatment!"
Theresa Kelly, California: "As a nurse I believe it is unethical to lie to patients regarding care they are attempting to get."
Sharon E. Owens, Pennsylvania: "Please protect vulnerable women."
If you want to protect them, you'll keep them out of places like Planned Parenthood.Jerri Feola, Florida: "Please spend that amount instead on accurate information and health care."
Emily Zall, Connecticut: "Government funded organizations must give accurate information."
Matthew Ellenwood, Illinois: "Clinics that are funded by taxpayers need to present accurate, unbiased information that allow the patient to make his/her own choices. To use taxpayers money to supprot a platform for a specfic viewpoint is a misuse of funding and needed to be carefully monitored"
Myra S. MacDonald, Michigan: "I do not want my tax dollars spent on deceiving women and pressuring them into a choice they don't want to make"
Rick Severin, Iowa: "Deceptive advertising and FRAUD should not be allowed."
Tiffany Knadle, North Carolina: "Isn't pretending to be a doctor or medical practitioner a crime??"
Yeah. Alicia Hanna went to prison for killing Angela Sanchez in an abortion she performed while pretending to be a doctor. But how about Hanan Rotem allowing his receptionist to act as an anesthesiologist? Joe Bills Reynolds allowing his janitor to act as an anesthesiologist? How come Planned Parenthood has never fluttered an eyelash at these people?Cheryl Brown, New York: "Publicly funded centers need to provide information on ALL options currently legally available, not slant the truth by withholding information."
Stacy Green, Oregon: "Any kind of deceitful advertising is intolerable, especially that which preys upon someone in crisis."
Maggie Elkins, Tennessee: "No one should try to persuade a woman when she is most vulnerable."
Allison Porcella, New Jersey: "By deceiving women you are making an extremely stressful situation much harder,whereas panic will set in and more women will die."
Consider the women who died because they trusted abortion facilities in general, Planned Parenthood in particular.Michael Reid,Maryland: "Ask yourself...."Would I want my child going to a fake doctor?" Truth is what sets us free NOT deception and manipulation."
HEATHER MCHALE, Virginia: "whereas I disagree with abortion except in the case of rape or where the mother is in danger,these women have the right to REAL,ACCURATE information before agreeing to any procedures."
Jessica Greenbush, California: "I have a right to put my tax dollars where I want them to be or remove them from where I don't want them to be. I do not support this false clinic issue. Please do not make me pay for something I don't believe in. You wouldn't want that done to you."
Think how we feel, Jessica, when our tax dollars are going to Planned Parenthood and paying for this slander against CPCs. Not to mention the other lying and bad behavior PP engages in.Eric Triffin, MPH, Connecticut: "This is false advertising and a bait and switch scam! It must be called for what it is and stopped."
Do you hold PP to the same standard? How about having them stop promising "options counseling" that's really just an abortion sales pitch?Gayna Uransky, California: "If the clinics presented both sides of this weighty question, it would be a good idea. Doesn't sound as though this is the case. Let's cut their funds."
PP doesn't present both sides. Not by a long shot. So here's to Gayna catching on to this fact and demanding that PP be defunded.Jill Landshof, New Hampshire: "This fraudulent practice is based on two premises. That the end justifies the means and that the perp is all knowing. Both premises are wrong."
Those are the premises upon which PP works, Jill. Open your eyes!Nanette Dolski, Ohio: "Deceiving women.....why?"
Antoinette Sellitto, Pennsylvania: "Don't use my tax dollars for any more deception in this country."
Which means that we need to yank PP's funding.CATHERINE COX, Arizona: "The time for making a profit at the expense of the vulnerable must END!!!!"
Amen to that. Go to Silent No More and ask how you can stand in solidarity with them.Laurel Colton, North Carolina: "Please, do not use our tax money for others to make life altering judgements."
K. Wren Grahame, California: "No more deception from ANYONE!"
Does that include PP?Sandra Lopez, California: "No one should be lied to."
Jazmin Hope, Florida: "accurate information on ALL sides and ALL options should be available to ALL women at ALL clinics"
I would hope that you also mean abortion clinics need to be giving accurate information on all sides and all options.fauna-june fauth, Oregon: "Reclaim our tax dollars and stop fake "clinics" from deceiving women who want to choose what is right for them. How dare these unqualified "hacks" steal our hard earned tax dollars and pretend they're counselors!"
Barbara McAlexander, Florida: "Anyone who gives the impression that they are a trained medical professional, when they are not, needs to be stopped."
How about Barbara Lofton at Hillview? Notice that Planned Parenthood never got their panties into a twist over her presenting herself as "Dr. Lofton" to the point where her own staff even thought she was a doctor!Peter Stickney, California: "I have nothing against a Pro-Life clinic that offers the choice of adoption and pre-natal care and help; but they must let the individual decide what is right for her and must not fill her head with nightmarish ideas and fears."
How about the bogus story PP told to get you to sign this petition? Any beef with that?Patricia C. Bode, California : ""Truth in advertising" must be observed in all fields, not just what type of sugar is used in a Pop Tart. How have they gotten away with this misleading and cruel tactic for so long?"
The real question ought to be how PP has gotten away with it for so long.Ari Reeves, Maryland: "Women in need must not be deceived."
Hillary Wentz , Texas: "These women deserve to know the truth and I am appalled that our taxes are going towards paying for their deception."
morgan connery, Texas: "Do not spend my tax dollars decieving and intimidating women when they most need real help!"
Amen to that!Nancy Powlas, Tennessee: "Ambiguity and/or vague representation of a business's true nature or intent perpetrates emotional abuse on women already in a life crisis. This is simply an ethical wrong and should not be allowed."
Like PP's promises of unbiased "options counseling"?Brad Tilson, Oregon: "Pregnant women ... should not be taken advantage of by withholding important information about the views of those who offer to help. To do so is equivallent to decieving a client in order to gain their confidence and influence their decisions. In other words: a con game."
Like the con game PP plays when they pretend to be neutral but are actually steering women into abortion?Susan Rudinger, California : "ALL women need to be given an equal amount of information on all options."
Jesika Smith, California: "It really doesn't matter what your belief system is, lying to anyone for any reason is flat out WRONG!"
Like the way PP lied to you to get you to sign a petition?Debbie Feder , New York: "It is wrong to manipulate young women who need support,not coercion!"
Kierstin Van Camp-Horn, Arizona: "Fraudulent organizations such as this should not be legal."
Which means that PP ought to be banned.Cori MacNaughton, Florida: "Don't we have enough misinformation to sift through already??? At a critical time in her life, when a woman may be under undue pressure from outside parties already, it is imperative that she be able to rely on any edifice offering itself as a "crisis pregnancy clinic" to give her balanced, unbiased information, without obligation or agenda. To do otherwise is both immoral and entirely unethical."
If you knew the experiences women had at Planned Parenthood....christine bucklin, California: "Deception is not a respectable practice."
Ann Austin, Texas: "Our government should take every opportunity to stop interference with a person's personal life and his/her personal decisions."
Which would pretty much shut down every abortion clinic in the country. Except maybe the one where Charlotte Taft works.Edson E. Campbell, Arizona: "Let's put the sexual racketeers out of business!"
Not sure what you mean, Edson, but if anybody qualifies as "sexual racketeers" it'd be the folks at PP.Christine Van Deusen, Connecticut: "This is a serious issue, this affects the respect of any woman, trying to make important decisioins her life, women do not need to be more scared they they already are, when it comes to pregnancy, and issues surrounded them, this is taken advantage of women at their Prime of emotional struggles."
Carey Hannan, Wisconsin: "To trick someone in such a situation is cruel!"
Amen to that. That's why I became a prolifer in the first place!Elisha Harrison, Iowa: "Professionals have an obligation to provide HONEST, informed healthcare. You are a disgrace to our profession!"
Melinda Sanchez, Michigan: "Counseling centers should be required to give information on all options available, and give as much information possible on each option."
Alison Sparks, New York: "I'm shocked that any Democracy would allow fake clinics."
Like the abortion "clinics" that are actually doctors' offices but pretend to be clinics so that the women think that they're protected by regulations? (Did anybody bookmark examples? I have to leave for work soon and don't have time to do a search.)Robyn Furse, Washington: "Stop this false advertising that intimidates and decieve women when they are in a vulnerable state. It's like psychological rape."
How about the actual rapes by Lawson Akpolunu in his abortion practice? The rapes Diane Sawyer considered "a non-story"?Theresa Ramseyer, Missouri: "Women should be notified about alternatives, but not forced to accept one, or to die from a back alley type abortion, which could happen, given this situation. To abort or not is not an easy choice for women - bullying and forcing won't help."
Check here for more information on the bullying and forcing that women endure.Julie Sanders, Texas: " This is unethical and WRONG - please help stop the abuse of vulnerable women!"
Go to Silent No More and offer your support, if you oppose the abuse of vulnerable women.rob west, California: "Why do the bushies? have to resort to deception to get their point heard.."
">Why does PP resort to deception to get you to sign their petition?Jenny Weisenbeck, New Jersey: "Please help women make informed choices, whatever they may be."
Patricia Moore, Michigan: "Practices like these prey upon the vulnerability of women in crisis. Their abuses must be stopped."
Melanie Jordan, Texas: "Your attention to this matter is appreciated."
Wouldn't you rather they cleaned up their own dishonest act, and maybe went after abortionists who rape, injure, and kill women?Phoenix Ewing, California: "Taking advantage of women when they are in emotional crisis is deplorable."
Which is why abortionists need to be held accountable.Rita Dorsey, Georgia: "I support a woman's right to choose for herself without being trapped or deceived into a decision."
Tori Myers, New Mexico: "All deceptive advertising should be illegal, but especially that which treats women and women's issues with such a condescending and condemning attitude."
Bonnie North, New Jersey: "I am not in favor of abortion, but instead am in favor of birth control. However, deceiving women to get them into a situation where someone tries to influence a very personal decision is just not right."
Julie Motl, Nebraska: "And any clinic operating in a deceptive fashion should be turned in to the State attorney general and closed down!"
Amen! This would close down nearly every abortion facility in American overnight.Kimi Walker, Arizona: "A woman should have the right to choose and be given correct and truthful information!"
sarah ghezaili, New York: "It is absolutely appalling that people need to take advantage of women who are seeking help and guidance to further their anti-choice cause."
How about when they take advantage of women purely to line their own pockets?PAMELA THOMAS, Arizona: "YOU CANNOT HELP A PERSON WITH DECEIT."
Barbara Dini, Washington: "This commission of fraud must be stopped. Women have the right to correct information."
Dominique Willard, Minnesota: "Stop the corporate welfare, of which this deceptive endeavor is a part."
Harold Walba , California: "Although we often differ on political issues, I hope we are on the same side when it comes to deception of woman."
Actually, Harold, you and PP are not on the same side, if you disapprove of deceiving women.Lori Panu, Louisiana: " I believe that no one should be deceived when faced with such an important decision as an unexpected pregnancy"
Diane Pellegrini, Washington: "Deception is never a good idea!"
Dana Marie, California : "We should have the right to choose, without persuasion in either way."
Heather Preisendanz, New Jersey: "Women should not feel their personal lives pressured by the opinions of others in this manner!"
Lauren Damon, California: "This act of luring in patients and making them feel guilty for a choice that is already hard enough is disgusting."
What about luring them in to sell them an abortion they're gonna regret the rest of their lives?Karen Lindner, Washington: "It is important that women have information about what they are choosing in terms of reproductive care. Deceptive advertising is dangerous to women's health."
dolores kulik, Alaska: "Require clinics to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."
That'd shut down the abortion clinics pretty quickly, wouldn't it?Joseph Wolf, Oregon: "Women in these circumstances do not need to be subjected to a faith-based "agenda"; they need medical services and unbiased info!"
Which they're not gonna get at an abortion clinic.Ryan Harper, Oregon: "Part of making a proper choice is accurate information. No woman can make a choice she can live with if she doesn't have the right information."
Pamela Fleetwood, Washington : "If it takes preying on the unsuspecting with lies and psychologically coersive tactics to further a cause, that cause is NOT just or moral."
James B Sitrick Jr, New Mexico: "Especially with regard to such an emotional and difficult issue, women should not have to run the risk of seeking assistance from those without a license or right to do so."
Bev Sutton, Arizona: "Clinics should advertise their purpose accurately."
Absolutely. PP ought to be honest about the fact that, as one PP administrator told me, "If she doesn't already know she wants an abortion, she has no business walking into a Planned Parenthood." PP ought to advertise that they are making the assumption that if you walk in the door, you've already chosen abortion and want them to make sure you go through with it regardless of your qualms.RL Teasley, New York" Women need real information and real choices, not deception."
AmenNancy A Bilzing, Missouri: "misinformation is lying... and that's what these people are doing... lying to girls and women who are very vulnerable!!"
Martha L. Hamilton, North Carolina: "false representation to gain customers is unethical and on the verge of being illegal."
Dale-Ann Verma, Texas: "This is horable women have a right to choose after being given correct information about there health issues."
Summer Hudson-Watters, Washington: "This is absurd. People in this "medical" industry should be there to aide women, not persuade them into another way of thinking thru lies and trickery. This is false advertisment at its pique and lives are on the line. Something must be done to stop this deceit."
lisa gunther, California: "When are women going to stop being used as political pawns? When are we as women going to band together and demand better?"
They are starting to band together and demand better. See Silent No More.Molly Heidemann, Indiana: "Women have the right to accurate information!"
Marietta Thompson, Oregon: "False advertising of any sort should be penalized"
Nancy Shinn, Oregon: "It is immoral for these predators to intimidate women in crisis and confusion"
Sarah Jacobson, California: "When women go into clinics they should be given full and accurate information on the issue they came in for. Fake clinics staffed with volunteers giving out false information with no medical background should be a case for prosecution. I really resent my tax dollars going for fradulant deceptive policies such as this one."
Kathleen Conroy, Massachusetts: "Althogh I am not an avocate of abortion I am against false advertising"
Harrison Hartley, Missouri: "All people - EVEN WOMEN! - deserve access to fair, complete information of any kind, all the more so when it concerns their health."
I like the "even women". As if there's some presumption that ordinarily women aren't entitled to fair, complete, accurate information.Kristin Hulett, California: " People, i.e. women, have a right to know that others are being honest and telling them the truth."
Jeffrey Van Davis, Illinois: "Deception is never a good practice"
April Ziering, California: "This is called false advertising. UNACCEPTABLE!!"
Rebecca Schneider, Arizona: "Health centers should be required to BE actually what they advertise they are."
And doctors' offices ought not to pretend that they're licensed clinics.Tristen Warner, California: "This issue is highly important to every woman whether or not she personally agrees with pro choice. Every woman deserves full information about her choices of her body and all that pertains to it."
Carol Anne Shiels, Massachusetts: "FRAUD comes in all shapes and sizes."
One of the most distinctive being the PP logo....Carrie L Willey, New Mexico: "This is a dangerous practice and could result in serious injury or death to the pregnant woman."
How about the deceptive practices that already do lead to serious injury or death to the pregnant woman?Joe Jennings, Ohio: "Women deserve all the information and services when it comes to their reproductive rights."
Sheila Maxwell, California: "Misleading the public with advertising should be prohibited in all cases."
Kelly Ogden-Schuette, Michigan: "It is imperative that women get accurate and complete information about their options."
Eric Sanden, Wisconsin: "The most dangerous attitude possible is, "the ends justify the means." Deception is wrong, pure and simple."
Ray Lovelace, Georgia: "One of many ways is which our tax dollars are spent to support lying."
Sally Alatalo, Illinois: "Private concerns should not be recipients of federal funds."
Kerry Schaefer, Wisconsin: "No. 1 deception is WRONG! No. 2 these "crisis centers" are doing women more harm than good, in not providing useful or accurate information."
Kenneth Hess, New Mexico: "Misrepresenting what the function of a clinic is for should be illegal and carry heavy legal punishments."
Jennifer Shumaker, California: "False advertising is false advertising... no funding for that!"
Carol Dressler, New York: "AS a survivor the right care makes the difference between life and death !"
I'm not sure what Carol is referring to, but I have to agree that the right care makes the difference between life and death. As too many women learned by dying because they trusted abortion clinics.Sandra Kinnally, Massachusetts: "I'm outraged that my tax dollars are funding such deceitful clinics!"
Jerry Brest, Ohio: "Planned parenthood should include all choices!!"
Kathleen Perezm Wisconsin: "How can our government pay for such deceit? Outrageous!!"
Jeff Stamper, California: "This is false advertising, and must be stopped. Misleading women in such a manner is totally inacceptable, and should not be allowed to occur anywhere."
Glen J. Kemp, Florida: "I do want my hard earned taxes to be spent on deceptive, unprofessional and unqualified "medical" services such as fake abortion clinics. Such dishonesty is beneath our dignity, wastes our tax dollars, and should not be funded nor supported by our government."
Is it also beneath our dignity and a waste of our tax dollars when it's spent to lie to sell abortions to frightened women?Paul Myers, Texas: "Isn't it enough that our elected officials deceive us, why do need clinics?"
Lesley Mcniesh, California: "This isn't just a matter of choice; it's a matter of integrity and honor. Our times are plagued by deception at every turn. We can't sit by while young women are lied to."
Annmarie Russell,Massachusetts: "Women need to know all their options. Their health and lives depend on it."
Robert Shier, Missouri : "Deceiving young women in their hour of distress is nothing short of UNCONSCIONABLE."
Dr. John F. Gay, Georgia: "Deception seems to be on the rise EVERYWHERE in today's world. Please let us not give permission for MORE."
C. Armstrong, California: "stop wasting my tax dollars on propaganda and lies"
Tom Bias, New Jersey: "Women in crisis need straight answers and compassionate support and to make decisions based on what is best for their lives, not some group's belief system."
Paul Lambert, California: "Please do not limit options for women."
Rick Thies, Kentucky: "I think that this practice of bait and switch is awful and should be against the law."
Seth Gilbertson, New York: "Every woman should have the ability to recieve balanced information so they can make their own decisions."
Diana Whatley, Florida: "When a person needs help, they don't need ABUSE!"
Leslie Geissinger, Minnesota: "Don't mix health care and political/moral agendas."
Kathleen Page, Washington: "Since when is deception a moral value."
Dewey Wetzel, Michigan: "Deceptive practices at any medical facility is immoral and should be illegal. Please put a stop to these practices immediately."
Sandra McConnell, California: " In a crisis, a woman looking for help should not be lied to or deceived!"
Diana Mangan, Oregon: "Please make sure that women are provide with accurate information."
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That's all for now, since I need to get a shower and head for work. Please give me substantiating links and examples of both PP badness and other abortion badness that PP turns a blind eye to.