Sunday, May 23, 2010

Late abortion: A retrospective of posts

A lot of folks are being drawn to my blog looking for information on third-trimester abortions in the wake of the murder of George Tiller.

This is a topic I've blogged a lot about, so for your convenience I'll pull together a retrospective of those posts. I'll also bring in posts about Tiller. They're grouped by topic, with posts in multiple categories if they fit in more than one.

TILLER:

  • What proportion of Tiller's late abortions were for fetal indications?: Tiller himself indicated that the number was 8%.
  • An analysis of those "medically necessary" Tiller abortions: Dr. Paul McHugh is interviewed about his review of Tiller's patient files.
  • The measure of a "hero": An overview of Tiller and the late abortions he did.
  • The Death They Didn't Mourn: Christin Gilbert, mentally disabled teenager, loses her life thanks to Tiller's bad habits and worthless staff.
  • Which is safer for the mother?: A side by side comparison of late abortion versus obstetric care for pregnancy complications
  • Which is safer for the mother?: A side by side comparison of a Tiller late abortion versus obstetric care for pregnancy complications
  • Tiller's Defense: Larry Said I Could: A look at what Tiller admitted on the stand in his trial
  • Tiller Trial: The Plot Thickens: Words from Kristin Neuhaus, the disgraced erstwhile abortionist who rubber-stamped post-viability abortions for Tiller
  • Tiller Getting Favorable Jury: Jurors were dismissed for being "too prolife" but not for being "too prochoice"
  • A Credible Claim?: A complaint filed by a Tiller patient
  • One That Got Away: A child that had been scheduled to die at Tiller's facility returned to plead for other children's lives
  • Them mean old prolifers help woman avoid unwanted abortion: Prolifers brought Tiller patient next door for real help
  • Read Complaints Against Tiller and Associates: Including a summary of the 30 illegal abortion charges based on his own patient records

    REASONS THIRD TRIMESTER ABORTIONS ARE DONE:
  • Why are women having third trimester abortions?: Examples of women facing pressure from health care professionals to abort when the women themselves don't want to.
  • An analysis of those "medically necessary" Tiller abortions: Dr. Paul McHugh is interviewed about his review of Tiller's patient files.
  • Examples of late abortions: Mostly fatal cases from my files.
  • What proportion of Tiller's late abortions were for fetal indications?: Tiller himself indicated that the number was 8%.
  • Obama, McCain, and "Health": A look at the real "health" reasons behind most late abortions

    WHO DOES LATE ABORTIONS:
  • Post Viability Abortions in Your State: A look at who is advertising late abortions online
  • Planned Parenthood Admits to Live Births: Which means they're doing post-viability abortions
  • 1988: NAF Member Kills Teen: Note Karpen's response to the fact that the prolifers outside were helping patients who'd changed their minds
  • Accountability at Last for Pendergraft?: Florida's notorious late term abortionist faced criminal charges
  • Parents Lied to Save Preemie: With list of abortion mills that would gladly have killed a baby that age or older
  • New (to me) Article on Midtown Hospital: An infamous Georgia abortion hospital with a history of routinely performing illegal third trimester abortions

    ON VIOLENCE AGAINST ABORTIONISTS:
  • Response to the Tiller Murder: Is somebody who kills an abortionist being "wise as serpents, innocent as doves"?
  • Abortion Vigilantism Worksheet: Link to an excellent teaching tool in Biblical ethics

    REJECTING LATE ABORTION:
  • Excellent article, sure to send the kind and loving abortion fanatics into an apoplexy: Link to an article about women who rejected abortion after a grave prenatal diagnosis
  • Why are women having third trimester abortions?: Examples of women facing pressure from health care professionals to abort when the women themselves don't want to.
  • 93 Days of Love: Link to the story of Baby Faith, a little girl with anencephaly
  • One That Got Away: A child that had been scheduled to die at Tiller's facility returned to plead for other children's lives
  • Them mean old prolifers help woman avoid unwanted abortion: Prolifers brought Tiller patient next door for real help
  • Joyful Anniversary for a Happy Mommy: It wasn't the end of the world after all
  • Parents had to Fight for Baby's Short Life: The gymnastics of avoiding an unwanted abortion

    HOW LATE ABORTIONS ARE DONE:
  • Which is safer for the mother?: A side by side comparison of a Tiller late abortion versus obstetric care for pregnancy complications
  • Applauding a Child's Death: Audio from Dr. Martin Haskell's presentation on how he does late abortions, with video by Priests for Life illustrating what he's describing
  • Tools of the Trade: Sopher Forceps: A description of a specialized tool for taking apart fetuses in the second and third trimester, and how that tool is used by guys including Tiller abortionist LeRoy Carhart
  • Too Cruel for Killers, Just Right for Babies: A drug used by many late term abortionists is considered "cruel and unusual" when used to execute murderers
  • Just For Comparison: VERY GRAPHIC, with photos of a living preemie, then aborted babies of similar size

    LIVE BIRTHS FROM LATE ABORTIONS:
  • This Baby Won't Stop Breathing: William Waddill strangles a baby in front of multiple witnesses -- then beats the murder rap
  • Why the Sudden Interest: The killing of a liveborn infant after an abortion seizes public attention
  • Planned Parenthood Admits to Live Births:
  • A Fetus With Attitude: A survivor of a late abortion speaks out
  • A Question About Born Alive Babies and Criminal Charges: Why aren't these cases always prosecuted?
  • Another Born-Alive Baby: A baby was injured for life by a post-viability abortion attempt
  • Another Fetus With Attitude: Melissa Ohden tells her story
  • More Born Alive Babies: Links to stories about abortion survivors
  • More Born Alive Babies and their Fates: Further examples of babies that survived attempts to kill them in-utero
  • Obama and the Born Alive Babies: A graphic look at live births following late abortions
  • More on Baby Rowan: His mother's story

    MISCELLANEOUS LATE ABORTION LINKS:
  • Shanda's Abortion Nightmare: Sent to the hospital in a car with her fetus hanging out of her vagina
  • Data Collection Suggestion: How to fill in the gaps in our knowledge about post-viability abortions
  • Can We Really? Tell Me the Truth: Reflecting on a Dostoyevsky quote and third-trimester abortions
  • Obama Comments, I Respond: A response to Obama's contention that late term abortionists simply never make mistakes
  • Third Trimester Abortions and the Law: Where they're legal and for what reasons
  • Answering a Question: A reminder that Martin Haskell made a video of himself doing a partial-birth (D&X) abortion, and that Mark Crutcher will pay any disgruntled abortion clinic employee big bucks if they fork one over
  • Where Does Obama Say He Supports 3rd Trimester Abortion?: At Planned Parenthood
  • Jill Stanek and FactCheck's Faulty "Facts": Was FactCheck ill-informed, or deliberately misleading>
  • Search: Abortions for Health Reasons: Explores how ill-defined "health" is in statistics about why women abort
  • Obama, Babies, and the Benefit of the Doubt: A look at Obama's assumption that late term abortionists never make mistakes
  • Who Needs Hope When You Have These Guys?: Abortion for "fetal indications" -- shutting the door on all hope
  • One That Got Away: A child that had been scheduled to die at Tiller's facility returned to plead for other children's lives">Astonishing new levels of abortion advocacy cluelessness

    Finally, courtesy of Spanish TV, see what these late abortions look like in real life:

    The difference between these abortions and Tiller abortions is that Tiller's staff chased the patient off to the bathroom to push her baby into a toilet and leave it there for staff to either clean up for photos, or dispose of in the crematorium that Tiller had on site. Or both.
  • 15 comments:

    OperationCounterstrike said...

    Ms. Gilbert's death was not Dr. Tiller's fault.

    Just her bad luck.

    There is no cure for bad luck.

    GrannyGrump said...

    The sinking of the Titanic wasn't anybody's fault. Just a boatload of bad luck.

    OperationCounterstrike said...

    Irrelevant. The point is, your post says Gilbert's death was the fault of Dr. Tiller's "bad habits and worthless staff". That's slander.

    She died because of her own bad luck, not because of any fault of Dr. Tiller or his staff.

    GrannyGrump said...

    If by "bad luck" you mean "She had the bad luck to have parents who trusted Dr. Tiller and his staff," maybe you're right. But that doesn't absolve Tiller or his staff of responsibility.

    Of course, in your mind, the abortionist would have to pull out a gun and SHOOT the patient dead before you'd say he had any culpability. Most people would beg to differ.

    OperationCounterstrike said...

    The fact is, if you drive a cab long enough, sooner or later someone with bad luck will have a heart attack and die while riding in your cab, no matter how well you drive. That's not your fault, it's just the passenger's bad luck.

    What happened to Ms. Gilbert was not Dr. Tiller's fault nor the fault of his staff. When you say it was his fault, that's slander.

    OperationCounterstrike said...

    If Ms Gilbert had gone to another doc, with a different staff, she would have died just the same.

    She died from an infection she had BEFORE she went in.

    GrannyGrump said...

    OC, if Christin was sick before the abortion started, Tiller and his staff should have diagnosed and treated the infection before they started poking around her gravid uterus.

    And how you can compare a couple of doctors royally fucking up with some poor cab driver whose fare just conks from a heart attack -- well, it shows the lengths to which you'll go to excuse bad behavior. When Tiller's "nurse" called 911, she LIED to the dispatcher, saying that the patient was awake and alert, and painting the whole thing as a routine transfer. I guess it was just Christin's bad luck that Tiller's "nurse" was a liar. Carhart's efforts at resuscitation were so amateurish that the medics thought he was a bystander. I guess it was just Christin's bad luck that Carhart is such a worthless dolt.

    Every bad behavior on an abortionist's part, you attribute to the patient's "bad luck". I'll remember that if you are ever a crime victim, so I can tell the perp's defense attorney that he should argue it wasn't anything the perp did wrong, just your bad luck, that you'd have gotten mugged no matter what street you walked down.

    OperationCounterstrike said...

    Some infections cannot be diagnosed until they bloom.

    That's why they are called LATENT infections.

    OperationCounterstrike said...

    And I do not attribute "EVERY" bad abortion-event to the patient's bad luck. There are some real live incompetents out there.

    But Dr. Tiller was not one of them. He was known far and wide as the guy to go to for a late-term abortion. I spent some serious time and energy looking for docs with a bad opinion of Dr. Tiller, and the only ones I could find were those who objected to his work itself (late term abortions), not to his competence or skill in doing them.

    When you suggest that Dr. Tiller was less than top-tier, you slander his memory and you reveal yourself to be an ignoramus.

    GrannyGrump said...

    Tiller killed viable babies for a living. He hired that quack Carhart. He injected formaldehyde into Sarah Smith's brain and left her blind and mentally disabled, and then his adoring fans stalked her adoptive family. he sold his patient list to pro abortion fund raising organizations. He was a loathsome individual. The only people who had anything GOOD to say about him are diehard abortion lovers who think the only good fetus is a dead fetus. You can pretty much judge a person's character by saying "George Tiller". If their response is revulsion, they're normal human beings with a conscience. If their response is admiration, poke them away with a sharp stick.

    OperationCounterstrike said...

    You are just wrong. I know people who actually knew Dr. Tiller professionally, and none of them ever had a bad word to say about his skill or his treatment of patients or colleagues.

    Sarah Smith, let's see, that was in the 1970s, right? Before ultrasound imaging was available. One error like that in what, four decades of doing late-term abortions is an outstanding, excellent record. Most surgeons WISH they had so few disasters in their pasts.

    You are slandering the memory of a victim of terrorist murder. Maybe you'd benefit from having someone close to you get murdered by a terrorist. Teach you some respect.

    GrannyGrump said...

    And Ted Bundy was a great co-worker, was very thoughtful and considerate of his elderly landlady, saved many lives when he worked a suicide hotline, and once rescued a toddler from drowning. That doesn't mean we give him a pass on bludgeoning coeds to death.

    Tiller killed babies for a living. VIABLE babies that could have been delivered alive and adopted out if their mothers were really unable to cope with caring for them. That's hideous enough that it eclipses what nice barbeques he gave for his neighbors or how often he took his dog to the vet or whatever other virtues he might have had.

    Some acts are so atrocious that they eclipse everything else you do. Stabbing babies in the brain so you can inject lethal chemicals into them makes the list of atrocities.

    OperationCounterstrike said...

    All the babies Dr. Tiller killed were inside the bodies of women who did not want them there. That means killing them is no atrocity. Those were justifiable homicides, every one.

    Christina said...

    OperationCounterstrike:

    I don't like to speak of the dead and George Tiller was wrongly murdered. However, to say that every late-term abortion Tiller committed was justifiable homicide is not accurate. Premature babies survive as early as 23 weeks, in rare cases 22 weeks. If those women no longer wanted to be pregnant (or even if the pregnancy was a significant threat to their health) they could have delivered early. Of course you cannot deliver a premature baby just because you want to, there has to be a significant reason to deliver, like your health is in severe danger.

    Also, abortion past 20 weeks is no safer than childbirth. If you actually look up the stats on Guttmacher you'll see this, abortion and childbirth are matched with mortality rates at this point.

    I just find it strange that if a doctor tried to kill a 24 week premature baby it would be deemed homicide, yet if a doctor kills a 24 week fetus in utero it is a late-term abortion. To me this makes no sense.

    OperationCounterstrike said...

    To me it makes lots of sense. If something is inside your body, then you are entitled to have it killed, no matter what it is.

    No exceptions. If God and Jesus Christ were located inside your body, then you'd be entitled to kill God and Jesus Christ.