Saturday, March 03, 2007

Should they have offered her an abortion?

An obese woman was surprised when her abdominal pain was diagnosed as a full-term fetus.

Now, if women have an inalienable right to opt out of motherhood, was the hospital remiss in not offering an immediate abortion upon diganosing the pregnancy?

6 comments:

Suzanne said...

Yeah, I want to hear the pro-aborts on this. Would it be okay for the mother to have aborted that day if she had no desire to have a baby?

Tlaloc said...

First of all the story is bogus. No one -NO ONE- goes through nine months of labor with the nausea, the cramps, the swelling, the hip displagia, the abnormal apetite, the motions of the fetus, the lack of periods, the weight gain, and so on through the literally hundreds of symptoms of pregnacy... and doesn't notice.

No, it doesn't happen.

Stories to the contrary are urban myths or a product of people lying. PERIOD.

That having been said, personally I don't agree with abortion after the fetus becomes an organism (that is when it reaches a point where, if removed from the mother, it would survive with no more care than a full term baby requires) except if the mother's health is jeopardized.

Anonymous said...

Actually, yes it has and still does occur, Tialoc. If you'd actually done your research before blathering out crap, you'd know that not every woman experiences pregnancy symptoms (some women are known to continue to have menstrual periods) or symptoms which are obvious:
http://www.news-daily.com/homepage/local_story_176214055.html?keyword=leadpicturestory

http://www.pregnancy-info.net/QA/answers-I_didn_t_know_I_was_pregnant__/

http://www.imnotsorry.net/sassy.htm

http://www.adoptionsbygladney.com/html/pregnant/diar_ben2.shtml

http://www.minti.com/parenting-advice/2563/being-pregnant-and-not-knowing/

And the stories could go on and on...

Tlaloc said...

"Actually, yes it has and still does occur, Tialoc."

No it doesn't. I'm sorry but it is so ludicrously stupid that I can't believe anyone falls for it.

I'll amend that slightly- it could happen in cases where the woman is severely mentally disadvantaged and doesn't have the capacity to realize what is happening to her. Other than that- No it has not and can not happen.



"If you'd actually done your research before blathering out crap, you'd know that not every woman experiences pregnancy symptoms"

You're simply wrong. Not every woman experiences every sypmtom but they ALL experience some. Pregnancy is simply too large a change in the body system for it to happen without being gratuitously obvious. Seriously.

It usually isn't even possible for a woman to actively hide she is pregnant from casual observers in the late stages, much less be unaware herself.

Really. This is right up there with the woman drying her dog in the microwave, or eating pop rocks and drinking soda and having your gut expolde. It's a tale repeated by the malicious for the consumption of the gullible.

Anonymous said...

No it doesn't. I'm sorry but it is so ludicrously stupid that I can't believe anyone falls for it.

I'll amend that slightly- it could happen in cases where the woman is severely mentally disadvantaged and doesn't have the capacity to realize what is happening to her. Other than that- No it has not and can not happen.


Ok, then. I can understand a healthy dose of skepticism, however you're denying these women's experiences. As a man, how can you possibly understand the changes a woman's body undergoes or how it affects every woman differently? I've read enough testimonies of this to know that it's not a few isolated cases of women making up wild stories for media attention. And in addition, I've read enough medical literature about pregnancy symptoms, I can understand how pregnancy and hormones can affect a woman. Yes, pregnancy is a major bodily change, however every woman is affected differently in one degree to another and the range of symptoms she experiences. And although most have some degree of symptoms (and the symptoms may very from woman to woman), the symptoms may not present themselves in an obvious manner and/or may be subtle due to other co-existing health conditions such as obesity, parapalegic paralysis, irregular menstrual cycles, etc (not necessarily due to a mental deficiancy). Howver, your lack of compassion or understanding doesn't astound me, though.

Tlaloc said...

"As a man, how can you possibly understand the changes a woman's body undergoes or how it affects every woman differently?"

By witnessing the event and by understanding the biology involved.

We're talking about growing a five to ten pound lump of moving tissue in your abdomen. Subtle, it ain't.



"Yes, pregnancy is a major bodily change, however every woman is affected differently in one degree to another and the range of symptoms she experiences."

Certainly.



"Howver, your lack of compassion or understanding doesn't astound me, though."

i fail to see what compassion has to do with the issue. If i tell you bigfoot and the loch ness monster aren't real am I failing to be compassionate?

those stories are just as viable as any "I gave birth and didn't know I was pregnant" morality play. I especially love the ones that involve a girl at the prom who gives birth in a toilet and then goes out to continue dancing.